Problem with Dealing with Partial Files

[stinky]

I was really excited to use alt.binz because of the RSS automation.  The problem is that my news provider is always missing a lot of posts, but rarely so much so that I can't rebuild the file.  If I download whatever I can with something like Newsleecher which will put the incomplete parts of the RAR file in the download directory.  I can then use QuickPar to rebuild everything.  The problem is that alt.binz seems to see the whole collection as incomplete even though there is enough data to do the rebuild.  Why can't it do this?

Version 0.25.0 on XP SP 2

[Hecks]

It can, and it does.  Have you enabled PAR2 repairing?  Perhaps a read through the Quick Start Guide (link in my sig) would be in order.  With this enabled, Alt.binz should autounpause just enough PAR2 files to repair your download before unraring - i.e. the job that QuickPar does.

If you've already done this, but still aren't seeing results, you'll need to be more specific about your problem.  Alt.binz should identify only the parts that are missing (see entry on PAR2 tab) once it has tried to find any missing articles, and will download the incomplete files for repairing.  If this isn't happening, please check your detailed log for any relevant messages.

Not a bug, so moving to Help forum.

-Hecks

[WyldPhoenix]

Hi,

I am new to the forum although I have been using Alt.binz for a couple of months!

I have this exact problem that stinky has happening at the moment. I have about 60% of the RAR/R0x files sitting at 98%, with only 1 or 2 pieces missing each.

There are NO PAR2 files available.

BUT there are the same files available via a torrent site.

SO, why can't I download the .torrent file and hit the 'recheck' button, which will then 'resume' the torrent, but using the incomplete RAR files from alt.binz.

The problem is that the incomplete files, as I understand it, remain in 'post' format, and are not being decoded into RAR/R0x files ...

Or does it actually do this but only after a number of failed attempts to download all of the missing posts ?

Suggestion: Maybe we could have a 'finished' button which will force alt.binz to decode that specific RAR/R0x files with some of the posts missing... which we could then sort out ourselves, either be torrent or PAR2 files...

AWESOME APPLICATION BY THE WAY !!!!

~Wyld

[Rdl]

Not true. "Sitting at 98%" is not the right word.

If 1 or 2 pieces are missing then the program tried to retrieve those and got 430 Article not found error. Based on YOUR setting in setup, program will try to retrieve it N times with delay M between then. After that if still gets 430 for those it will decode them.

There is also an interesting option in setup->download "When incomplete, position parts on the correct offset in file"

So you're not the first to have idea to 'complete/repair' files from usenet via bt/emule

[stinky]

But if there is enough PAR data, why not fix and decode immediately and forget about the partial files?

What exactly does the "When incomplete, position parts on the correct offset in file" option do?

[Rdl]

But if there is enough PAR data, why not fix and decode immediately and forget about the partial files?

Hm, rethink whole strategy again and you'll find out why it's not possibile that way. Parts->Decoding->Repairing

What exactly does the "When incomplete, position parts on the correct offset in file" option do?

It means you'll get file that is in size like a complete file and everything that was downloaded will be positioned in right position in file. This REALLY helps alternate downloading methods (BT/emule) not to download whole file again.

[stinky]

Then why am I able to do it with partial downloads on other usenet programs?  If I have the partial files, QuickPar will rebuild them.  Every file could be at 95% and it will rebuild them all if it has enough parity.

[Rdl]

I don't disagree. Alt.Binz does that also without user interaction(Quickpar). The problem here is, you obviously don't understand how things work in alt.binz. Plenty of topic/tutorials on that. Now if someone would just read them.