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Offline Zefbot

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« on: March 29, 2008, 10:58:21 am »
Hi All and thank you for a great program.

I've only been using it for about a week and have had no issues up until a day or two ago.  Everything had been downloading fine, unraring, repairing if necessary, and the required file sitting ready and waiting for me to watch in my "To Watch" folder. 

However the last day or so it won't download each rar file fully.  For example, a 15mb rar file gets downloaded as maybe a 5mb file and I see lots of 'no such article' and 'file is missing part xxx' messages in the log.  I've tried a number of new downloads and it seems to be happening with all of them now.

I have been experimenting with one download in particular.  I have downloaded it with another newsreader and there is no problems.  I try to download with alt.binz and I see the progress of a rar file being downloaded but then it jumps to the next rar file before finishing even though the first rar file disappears and looks like it has finished.  But when I check it it has only partly downloaded.  I have now tried a few attempts at this download to try to work out what is happening.  It never downloads any of the rar files fully but it varies how much it downloads.  For instance, one time a 15mb file might end up as 5mb, but the next time I try to download it might come out as 8mb.  Then the next attempt it might be 4mb. In between attempts I try the same download with another newsreader and have no problems. 

The only changes I have tried in alt.binz so far is in Setup/Servers ticked various combinations of 'select group' and 'article cmd' without any success (I tried that as I searched your forums for the same problem and that is all I could find).  I have now put them both back to unticked as this is how they were and did work fine for the first week or so of downloading.

Would love to solve this problem as the first trouble free week using alt.binz I thought I had finally found the newsreader for me.  If I can get it working again consistently I will be over the moon.  Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks!  :)

Oh, and if you need further info please let me know what and how to go about getting it.  Cheers!
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Re: No such article
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2008, 11:06:06 am »
define: I have downloaded it with another newsreader and there is no problems

all other evidence indicates, that the files are most likely to be to old and incomplete on the server of ur usenetprovider...
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Offline Zefbot

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Re: No such article
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2008, 11:12:42 am »
Quote from: davidq666 on March 29, 2008, 11:06:06 am
define: I have downloaded it with another newsreader and there is no problems

all other evidence indicates, that the files are most likely to be to old and incomplete on the server of ur usenetprovider...
The files are new, as in only uploaded in the last day.  What I meant by I have downloaded it with another newsreader is that I can download it successfully using newsleecher.  I did this to check that the problem wasn't with the uploaded files or with retention.  Both alt.binz and newsleecher are configured to the same usenet service that I subscribe to. 

So I try with alt.binz and have the issues I described in my first post, then tried newsleecher and can download and extract successfully.  Tried again with alt.binz, same issues.  Try again with newsleecher, no issues.

Any ideas?
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Re: No such article
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2008, 11:22:51 am »
Try setting 'Select group' under server properties. (do not forget apply)
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Offline Zefbot

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Re: No such article
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2008, 11:24:30 am »
Quote from: Rdl on March 29, 2008, 11:22:51 am
Try setting 'Select group' under server properties. (do not forget apply)
I tried that, as mentioned in my first post, with no success.  Thank you for the suggestion though.
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Re: No such article
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2008, 11:24:57 am »
Please confirm that you're using the same NZB with both Alt.Binz and Newsleecher (i.e. not via headers with the latter) - and if you're able to, post its name here so we can test.  Also,  specify server and connection method.
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Offline Zefbot

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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2008, 11:36:25 am »
Quote from: Hecks on March 29, 2008, 11:24:57 am
Please confirm that you're using the same NZB with both Alt.Binz and Newsleecher (i.e. not via headers with the latter) - and if you're able to, post its name here so we can test.  Also,  specify server and connection method.

Yes, the same NZB is being used in both (not sure what you mean by 'not via headers with the latter', if you could clarify?), however I can confirm I am grabbing the same NZB from newzbin.com to use in both programs.  The NZB I have done the most experimenting with today is EDIT, sorry, have thought better about posting the nzb.  Is that what you need as I'm not sure how to post the NZB.  My usenet provider is usenetserver.com using SSL.

Thanks for your help.  If you need more info please let me know.

EDIT: Not sure if you needed this however my connection is adsl2+ and I sync at around 19Mbps.

EDIT2: Tried downloading again with alt.binz and this time it has worked perfectly and unrarred and everything.  Not sure what has been going on.  If I continue to have issues with more NZB's I will repost.  (Nearly all the NZB's I grab are very recent).
« Last Edit: March 29, 2008, 11:45:14 am by Zefbot »
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Offline Hecks

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Re: No such article
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2008, 11:50:51 am »
If you search around this forum and elsewhere, you'll note that Usenetserver.com has been having problems with its SSL servers.  If the problem persists, and the post is in fact complete, try a non-SSL connection - then at least you'll know whether it's a server or local Alt.Binz issue.

This doesn't seem to be a widespread problem with Alt.Binz, though, otherwise I'm sure we'd be drowning in similar complaints by now. :)
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Offline Zefbot

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« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2008, 12:02:48 pm »
Quote from: Hecks on March 29, 2008, 11:50:51 am
If you search around this forum and elsewhere, you'll note that Usenetserver.com has been having problems with its SSL servers.  If the problem persists, and the post is in fact complete, try a non-SSL connection - then at least you'll know whether it's a server or local Alt.Binz issue.

This doesn't seem to be a widespread problem with Alt.Binz, though, otherwise I'm sure we'd be drowning in similar complaints by now. :)
Ok, thanks for your help.  I'll let you know how I go, one way or the other, during the week.  Cheers!  :)
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2008, 11:47:17 am »
Just an update.  All seems to have come good.  No issues the last two nights and I have the same settings as when I first started (when I initially had no issues).

At any rate, thanks to all who tried to help.  A small donation has been made via paypal in appreciation.  :)
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2008, 02:18:00 pm »
This is interesting - I have been having exactly the same problem. Occasionally when I try to download a large multipart binary I will get a lot of '430 No Such Article' errors - but if I open up the NZB I am using (in Notepad) and copy out some of the relevant message IDs to a new NZB the articles will download with no problems. I had assumed, for this reason, that it was a software bug (since clearly the articles do exist on the server) but as it happens I am also downloading from UNS over SSL so I suppose it could be that the problem is on their end.

Edit:

Look at this interesting selection from my logfile. Various articles are declared nonexistant, only later to be downloaded (I set retries on 430 to 10, no delay). I have highlighted a few examples:


[31/03/2008 14:07:46] [T3] Error 181/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:46] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:46] [T3] Article started 179/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:47] [T4] Article finished 178/211 [filename].part045.rar
[31/03/2008 14:07:47] [T4] Article started 181/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:47] [T3] Error 179/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:47] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:47] [T3] Article started 182/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:48] [T3] Error 182/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:48] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:48] [T3] Article started 179/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:49] [T3] Error 179/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:49] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:49] [T3] Article started 182/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:49] [T2] Article finished 176/211 [filename].part045.rar
[31/03/2008 14:07:49] [T2] Article started 179/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:49] [T3] Error 182/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:49] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:49] [T3] Article started 183/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:49] [T1] Article finished 180/211 [filename].part045.rar
[31/03/2008 14:07:49] [T1] Article started 184/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:50] [T3] Error 183/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:50] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:50] [T3] Article started 182/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:50] [T4] Article finished 181/211 [filename].part045.rar
[31/03/2008 14:07:50] [T4] Article started 185/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:50] [T3] Error 182/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:50] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:50] [T3] Article started 186/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:51] [T3] Error 186/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:51] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:51] [T3] Article started 182/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:51] [T3] Error 182/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:51] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:51] [T3] Article started 183/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:52] [T3] Error 183/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:52] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:52] [T3] Article started 182/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:53] [T3] Error 182/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:53] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:53] [T3] Article started 183/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:53] [T1] Article finished 184/211 [filename].part045.rar
[31/03/2008 14:07:53] [T1] Article started 182/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:53] [T3] Error 183/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:53] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:53] [T3] Article started 186/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:54] [T3] Error 186/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:54] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:54] [T3] Article started 183/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:54] [T2] Article finished 179/211 [filename].part045.rar
[31/03/2008 14:07:54] [T2] Article started 187/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:54] [T4] Article finished 185/211 [filename].part045.rar
[31/03/2008 14:07:54] [T4] Article started 186/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:55] [T3] Error 183/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:55] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:55] [T3] Article started 188/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:55] [T5] Article finished 172/211 [filename].part045.rar
[31/03/2008 14:07:55] [T5] Article started 183/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:55] [T3] Error 188/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:55] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:55] [T3] Article started 189/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:56] [T3] Error 189/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:56] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:56] [T3] Article started 188/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:57] [T3] Error 188/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:57] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:57] [T3] Article started 189/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:57] [T3] Error 189/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:57] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:57] [T3] Article started 188/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:58] [T1] Article finished 182/211 [filename].part045.rar
[31/03/2008 14:07:58] [T1] Article started 189/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:58] [T3] Error 188/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:58] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:58] [T3] Article started 190/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:58] [T4] Article finished 186/211 [filename].part045.rar
[31/03/2008 14:07:58] [T4] Article started 191/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:59] [T3] Error 190/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:59] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:59] [T3] Article started 188/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:59] [T2] Article finished 187/211 [filename].part045.rar
[31/03/2008 14:07:59] [T2] Article started 192/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:59] [T3] Error 188/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:07:59] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:07:59] [T3] Article started 190/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:08:00] [T3] Error 190/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
[31/03/2008 14:08:00] [T3] 430 430 No Such Article
[31/03/2008 14:08:00] [T3] Article started 188/211  [047/149] - "[filename].part045.rar" yEnc
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Re: No such article
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2008, 07:22:07 pm »
This looks characteristic of a server that needs time to fetch the articles from wherever they're stored when first requested - usually only seen when articles are old.  In any case, the solution is to ensure that you leave at least 2 minutes, or better 5 minutes, between retries via Setup > Connection > Delay between retries.  Certainly you'll achieve nothing by setting it to 0.
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2008, 07:35:23 pm »
Oh right, thanks for letting me know. I was thinking from the perspective of it being a bug in Alt.Binz when I set that.
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Re: No such article
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2008, 11:02:43 pm »
[T3] 430
[T4] Article finished

[T3] 430
[T2] Article finished

[T3] 430
[T1] Article finished

[T3] 430
[T4] Article finished

This shows that T3 connected to a front end (fe) that is having problems retrieving the articles from storage.  You can't effectively troubleshoot this with UNS unless altbinz or another program lets you see which 'fe' your T3 connected to, so you could contact UNS support and report which 'fe' is giving you trouble.  The 'fe' number is shown in the NNTP connection response banner:

fe167.usenetserver.com
fe184.usenetserver.com
fe161.usenetserver.com
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2008, 11:26:32 pm »
Interesting, thanks for pointing that out Jesus.  :)
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